ChrisDen Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 I think the wiki is a bit thin on the creation and use of text templates. Do you think it could be covered in its own page in more detail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Sure, I can write something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Take a look and review. The long explanation on Settings page is now part of the Text Templates page and Settings just links to it. I added a quick link to it on the home page. too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDen Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 That was quick. Did not even have a chance to create the new page and it was there. I have made some edits. Nothing major. What is the effect of the check mark on the list of templates? Other than for a bit of the message to be displayed on the settings screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 hours ago, ChrisDen said: What is the effect of the check mark on the list of templates? Tapping a template sets it as default, then it will be automatically used when that log type is selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDen Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I thought by adding the log type to a template achieved that. Just tested that. Template with log type Found. No check mark on the list. Automatically adds to found log. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 This was on my "I'm confused" list. I was unclear on the interaction of the Log Defaults:Log Type default setting and the Text Templates when a log type is checked as the default. What happens when they conflict. Experimentation shows what seem oddities. Log Type: Didn't Find It Text Templates default set to Found It. Do a log and I see Text Templates Found It plus text message from there. Turn off Enable Log Type Templates and I see the very same behavior. (This seems wrong unless I misunderstand the setting) Delete the check mark from the Text Templates list and then the Didn't Find It setting finally appears. I assumed Log Type default existed before Text Templates and is there for folks who aren't ready to dive into Text Templates. Still, with two places to set the default, confusion can exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDen Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 The fact that you can only check one of the list adds to the confusion Just removed the log type from the template and checked it. Not automatically brought in to mesage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, rragan said: I assumed Log Type default existed before Text Templates and is there for folks who aren't ready to dive into Text Templates. Still, with two places to set the default, confusion can exist. Log Defaults are not the same as Text Templates. Log Defaults are used to set defaults when logging. E.g. if you set Found It then that will always be the default when you are creating a log. 48 minutes ago, ChrisDen said: The fact that you can only check one of the list adds to the confusion Setting the checkmark/default inserts the text into a log message regardless of the log type. If you don't use a checkmark/default then text templates will only be inserted based on if you set a log type for that template, or you insert them manually into a message by choosing the ... menu or long press to get the context menu. 57 minutes ago, rragan said: Turn off Enable Log Type Templates and I see the very same behavior. (This seems wrong unless I misunderstand the setting) Bug. Text Templates with log type are used to automatically insert that template into a newly created log IF that log type matches. Does this explain? ChrisDen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think so. I need to write some more clarifying this. Nic Hubbard and ChrisDen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, rragan said: I think so. I need to write some more clarifying this. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDen Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, rragan said: I think so. I need to write some more clarifying this. Late at night here. If you have not fixed the wiki by tomorrow I will make the changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Well I thought I was clear but experimentation suggests I'm not. Use case: Log Type set to Found It. Log Type Text Templates enabled. A single template with text "wwwww" checked and associated with no log type. When I try to log a cache, I get Found as the Log type and no text at all in the log message. I think I expected to get wwwww since "Setting the checkmark/default inserts the text into a log message regardless of the log type" seemed to be my situation. Is something wrong or am I still confused? I will defer writing more words until I'm sure I don't document a possible bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, rragan said: I think I expected to get wwwww since "Setting the checkmark/default inserts the text into a log message regardless of the log type" seemed to be my situation. I am not able to replicate the situation here, it seems to be working correctly for me. I set Default Log Type to Found It Created a text template with no log type. Template is selected. Went to the Log cache screen and Found it was selected and my log text was inserted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Both my iPhone and iPad act the same but differently from you. Here are screen caps. Maybe you can spot how we differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, rragan said: Both my iPhone and iPad act the same but differently from you. Here are screen caps. Maybe you can spot how we differ. Found the bug. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 So it should work as you described and I can write that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, rragan said: So it should work as you described and I can write that up? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rragan Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Edits done ChrisDen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDen Posted March 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Nic Hubbard said: Found the bug. Thanks! Was that fixed in 4.2.1? Iinassume in beta 4.2(6) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Hubbard Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 hours ago, ChrisDen said: Was that fixed in 4.2.1? Iinassume in beta 4.2(6) No, this was just fixed yesterday and will be in 4.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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